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So what you're going to see is you're going to see him putting on a case to be able to show that this was all one giant mistake. you're going to see him, for example, i think one of the key pieces of evidence here is he claims as soon as he crossed the border, he called 911 in the united states. and was told that they can't do anything. he knew he had crossed. he was nervous. he said, what do i do? they said turn around, we can't help you. >> there's also apparently, he says, a poorly marked crossing. rafael, you've been in this area. when he says a poorly marked crossing, i'm imagining he's o...

They blew it. if i'm president obama and i believe in the product, which he clearly does, bob, you'd agree. i'd be angry. 46 of the 50 states not being able to get this up. he absolutely did not get it done. the fact that nobody's reporting to him with the numbers he wants. we watch this every day. i studied at the school of business. understand ceos sometimes delegate responsibilities. so people get fired and they demand accountability. why does the president try to soft pedal it? >> nothing's his fault, that's the problem. >> maybe, the scary part is, if they -- >> you would never say that? ...

They blew it. if i'm president obama and i believe in the product, which he clearly does, bob, you'd agree. i'd be angry. 46 of the 50 states not being able to get this up. he absolutely did not get it done. the fact that nobody's reporting to him with the numbers he wants. we watch this every day. i studied at the school of business. understand ceos sometimes delegate responsibilities. so people get fired and they demand accountability. why does the president try to soft pedal it? >> nothing's his fault, that's the problem. >> maybe, the scary part is, if they -- >> you would never say that? ...