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Quite a bit of that, president biden describes his job this way to a room of preschoolers in new jersey yesterday. watch this. >> when you're president, see these people here? they're with you all the time. they get to ask you all kinds of questions. you figure out how you're going to avoid answering them. >> martha: if there's something that the president says he's clearly successful on, it's that, brian. he's not answered a lot of questions and he's gotten away with not doing many sit-down interviews at all. the lowest we've seen in past presidencies. >> something about preschoolers and kids...

Next year. what's the message in that one? >> you know the president web's a great negotiator. nobody wins the presidency by going to those dinners. i ith ultimately the president wants a good relationship with the media, but it's difficult when they are dishonest and have their own agenda. they don't want to report the stories, they want to be the stories. multiple sit-down interviews. if they are not going to be fair to him, he can take his message on the road. judge jeanine: there is talk about this being the buildup to 2020. as he goes on his way through the next four years, do you think h...

Next year. what's the message in that one? >> you know the president web's a great negotiator. nobody wins the presidency by going to those dinners. i ith ultimately the president wants a good relationship with the media, but it's difficult when they are dishonest and have their own agenda. they don't want to report the stories, they want to be the stories. multiple sit-down interviews. if they are not going to be fair to him, he can take his message on the road. judge jeanine: there is talk about this being the buildup to 2020. as he goes on his way through the next four years, do you think h...

Next year. what's the message in that one? >> you know the president web's a great negotiator. nobody wins the presidency by going to those dinners. i ith ultimately the president wants a good relationship with the media, but it's difficult when they are dishonest and have their own agenda. they don't want to report the stories, they want to be the stories. multiple sit-down interviews. if they are not going to be fair to him, he can take his message on the road. judge jeanine: there is talk about this being the buildup to 2020. as he goes on his way through the next four years, do you think h...

Accumulate. >> you say it has to accumulate. >> offended, changed the rules, totally thrown away the book on how the media covers candidates. like we complained or we sort of worried over the past maybe four months ago before all in took off about access to hillary clinton or access to certain candidates and sit-down interviews. this guy is just thrown that all out the window. calls people, puts kids on the helicopters. there are no rules anymore. >> but you know. >> there is nothing. >> i think there are two reasons trump has risen out. i tried to watch the phenomenon. one thing for sure is o...