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What exactly constitutes a wall. outgoing chief of staff john kelly said this administration actually abandoned the idea of a physical border wall early in trump's presidency. he told "the los angeles times" in an interview, to be honest, it's not a wall. the president still says wall. oftentimes, frankly, he'll say barrier or fencing. now he's tended towards steel slats, but we left a solid concrete wall early on in the administration. obviously this deal that senator graham described out of his lunch with the president today still in the very early preliminary stages. we haven't heard a lot ...

Reporting that president trump wanted jared and ivanka to go back to new york. do you find it notable that she's so quick to end any speculation that, hey, i'm not doing this? >> you know, she plays a very big role in this white house as an adviser in the president's life. and because of that knee-jerk reaction from the world community about how she sat in on that. and then also once again, going back to the tax issue, they are quelling this right now before it gets started. they did bring it out, but people -- i mean i heard that there was a communications call where a lot of the big names in...

World leaders at the g20. and "the new york times" reporting that president trump wanted javanka, jared and ivanka, to go back to new york. do you find it notable that she's so quick to end any speculation that, hey, i'm not doing this? >> you know, she plays a very big role in this white house as an adviser in the president's life. and because of that knee-jerk reaction from the world community about how she sat in on that. and then also once again, going back to the tax issue, they are quelling this right now before it gets started. they did bring it out, but people -- i mean i heard that th...

The judiciary committee just after christine blasey ford accused him of sexual assault, saying she remembered it was him with 100% certainty. let's go live to m.j. lee, who was in the hearing room. you just spoke to senator flake, who is a keep, pivotal swing vote and it unclear how he's going to vote on judge kavanaugh. >> reporter: that's right. he walked away from the room pretty quickly. we tried to get some comment from him after the last break. he said he was still listening. that's all he would say. it notable he was asked did you find christine blasey ford to be credible? did you belie...

Scrambled if he was staying in his job, was getting fired or was resigning, called my colleague at the washington post and basically said that the white house was trying to figure out the exact same thing not just the reality but their own talking point, how they were going to try to spin it. so the second part of your question, at the end of the day it was kind of this disco ball. as of monday night nothing has actually changed yet. >> ashley, i found it notable that kelly walked him out to the car. a little pavement that's between the white house and the old executive officer building. you d...