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And his brother had a strike on the boston marathon? jon: we mentioned that you were the primary author of the patriot act. in what ways have they gone beyond what you and congress, in your view, intended? >> well, they've completely tipped over the standard of relevance beyond what is in the dictionary and what common sense is. what the patriot actses says is if there was a foreigner, meaning not a u.s. sit sfwlen and not a green card holder who is the target of an authorized terrorism investigation, then they could collect the phone records and the email records of the people that the foreig...

Presume him to be, i mean, he has come a long way from where he was even as a senator in the u.s. congress, his position on civil liberties issues and national security issues there. buzz feed points out on civil liberties, a tale of two obamas. as a liberal estate senator, obama was a civil liberties crusader. now is he defending drone attacks on american set zenz. "there has als always been a distinction between citizens and noncitizens. it means something to be a sit sfwlen, and that's important he said in 2002. >> i think you're seeing the beginning of long unending conversation about dron...

>> i'm talking about the rendition which means the transfer without legal process of a detainee to another government for purposes of detention and interrogation, and under the bush administration we know that spawned basically an enormous amount of torture in the custody of governments like egypt, syria, jordan, and so on. we don't know what the policies of the current government are. >> i know that i was involved in the case of a canadian sit sfwlen who was grabbed at j.f.k. and brought to syria. it's extraordinary when we think about it now. turned over to the assad government to be "interr...