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Into debt, we become less safe. >> last night was frustrating for me. everybody on the democratic side is talking about giving gifts away and on the republican side they tried to get marco to list a program he would cut and he wouldn't talk about it. john kasich avoided it too. he followed up with adjusting medicaid. there you have a situation marco's plans of $2 trillion for new spending and the punch line, we don't want people to get beheaded. i set there last night and focussed on marco. we can protect our children from bankruptcy and beheadings and yet i didn't hear from anybody last night...

Trillion dollars in new military spending and you get something that looks to me not very conservative. >> if you invest that money in a business you get to write it off on taxes. if you put it in your family, your children it's not recognized. yes, i want to rebuild the american military. i know rand is a committed isolationist. i'm not. i believe the world is a stronger and better place when the united states is the strongest military place in the world. >> marco, how is it conservative to add a trillion dollar expenditure for the federal government you're not paying for? how is it conservat...