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Earlier so there would not have been a bigger surgeon the siv issue. i recognize, i think it is only fair to put in context, that your own testimony suggests that there was a 17,000 siv backlog that hadn't -- nine months had passed by without a single interview. so obviously you inherited a significant backlog. but how many sieves -- sivs we awarded during the trump administration. >> i don't have the numbers in front of me, over the course of the administration there must have been several thought issues. >> so the question is should we knot have surged more significantly, i know you set you ...

Challenging situation. >> should we not have started earlier so there wasn't a bigger surge on the siv issue? i recognize i think it's only fair to put in context that your own testimony suggested there was a 17,000 siv backlog that nine months had passed by without a single interview. so obviously you inherited a significant backlog. how many sivs were award evidence during the trump administration? >> i don't have the numbers if front of me. over the course of the administration there must have been several thousand. >> so the question is then should we not have surged more significantly? yo...

Earlier? should there not have been a bigger surge on the siv issue? i recognize, i think it's only fair to put in context that your own testimony suggested that there was a 17,000 siv backlog. nine months had passed by without a single interview, so obviously you inherited a significant backlog, but how many sivs were awarded during the trump administration? >> i don't have the numbers in front of me, but i think over the course of the administration, there must have been several thousand. >> so the question is then should we not have surged more significantly? i know you said you put up to 5...

Numbers. go ahead. >> there was specificity on what the president said is an achieved mission pertaining to americans. do you have a specific number or threshold when it comes to afghans about what would definet 31st. >> we've never put a cap on the number of special immigrant visa applications or the number of individuals who can apply for our variety of programs that are overseen by the state department. i'm not going to put a cap on that today. i would also note that as the secretary of state said we will continue and we are continuing to look at a range of options to provide support and to...

0 these are known passport holders. >> okay. but have -- have lprs also been contacted? >> yes. >> and what about siv applicants, people who are -- we're in contact -- >> will we get -- >> i'm sorry. >> i don't expect you to have all of it, but then, you know, since this whole thing began there's been a lot of criticism of the administration over how it handled it and there's been a lot of pushback from people within the administration about the hand that you were basically dealt or what you say you were dealt by the previous to deal with the taliban in terms of the siv program in terms of the...