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Inexplicably during the campaign, donald trump said that approving the pipeline would be better for the environment. he clearly took no time to understand anything about tar, sands, oils, and what happens when it spills. i was a deputy secretary of labor. i like when we create jobs, but the number of permanent jobs created by ski ton is 35. and that simply doesn't justify the environmental risk that we saw today over the last couple of days. >> and we might see more as time goes on. josh, you've been -- i feel like in this week that, you know, between roy moore and al franken and the president...

Obama and josh barro, chris, i want to start with you because keystone, it was a very big controversial issue in that white house when you worked in it, when you were cabinet secretary, what does it say to you to watch this spill happen as xl starts to move towards possible construction approval. >> we were warned about this. environmentalists warned about this for years and it's one of the reasons why the obama administration decided not to go forward with this. inexplicably during the campaign, donald trump said that approving the pipeline would be better for the environment. he clearly took...

You to watch this spill happen as xl starts to move towards possible construction approval. >> we were warned about this. environmentalists warned about this for years and it's one of the reasons why the obama administration decided not to go forward with this. inexplicably during the campaign, donald trump said that approving the pipeline would be better for the environment. he clearly took no time to understand anything about tar, sands, oils, and what happens when it spills. i was a deputy secretary of labor. i like when we create jobs, but the number of permanent jobs created by ski ton is...