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Prophetic tradition is to stand up to the unjust laws that are tearing families and communities apart. >> but, reverend, that is synonymous then with open borders. i mean, why have differentiation of any kind between countries? >> well, you know, of course there is the nation state system and i think that most advocates would agree that people should have a legal process in which to come through ports of entry. in fact asylum seekers are part of that legal process. but the problem that we have is there is no way for most of the immigrants that have come to -- there essentially is no line. peop...

Variable here. and also there is, of course, other factors. right, the democratic party is dependent on the hispanic vote. and the -- and i would say hispanic leaders, not necessarily the average hispanic voter. obviously, highly concerned about the crisis in central america and support the -- sort of the -- at least not curtailing the current levels of immigration but, and, of course, corporate part of the republican party has always supported low skill labor, and really what you are talking about really is an issue that transcends both parties in a sense that because it transcends the sort o...

Vote. and the -- and i would say hispanic leaders, not necessarily the average hispanic voter. obviously highly concerned about the crisis in central america and support the -- sort of the at least not curtailing the current levels of immigration but, and, of course, corporate part of the republican party has always supported low skill labor and really what you are talking about really is an issue that transcends both parties in a sense that because it transcends the sort of -- both party's elites are inattentive to the crisis. we know the problem. >> tucker: that's for sure. >> the incentives...

Industries in our economy like agriculture, the tourism industry, we need people who are able to work those jobs. oscar has been working full-time since he was 14 years old. he has three siblings that have all been working for young age. we need the skills and talents of immigrants to make our country great. we need to find a way to do it legally. >> tucker: you are a smart guy, we both the same school. you don't really believe that our agriculture industry is the reason they are here. we have more americans unemployed then any time since the great depression. we have a surplus of americans wh...