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That well, if trump actually met and knew maxwell, why exactly is he wishing her well? and what effect could that have on the trial? you're right in that the prosecution and the court has limited this, limited it even to just four victims, not the many more victims of epstein that has been guessed at. >> and is that a tactic? we were talking about this with the producers earlier today. does that get this person on the easiest things to convict her on. if they convict her, she'd spend the rest of her life in prison and it would be implied she's paying the price for anything else she did. >> you...

And most overwhelming evidence and not to try to charge everything even though you could charge other things. >> is it best to charge what may be a slam dunk versus all that is possible? >> when i was a prosecutor, i had about 110 trials. where i was unsuccessful is when i got greedy and i put in charges that i probably could have proven, but i didn't focus enough on the ones that were slam dunks, what i used to call lebron james layups. if you focus on the slam dunks, the ukraine, the abuse of power in terms of subpoenas and not cooperating with congress and stay away from the ruler report. b...

Important to note that about one in four baseball players is foreign-born. >> that is an interesting event. i wonder if they'll play baby shark. they better. molly. >> now i have that stuck in my head. i'm looking ahead to a trio of red state gubernatorial elections coming up this month. this week we have the elections in kentucky and mississippi and then later in the month louisiana. you would think these would be slam dunks for republicans but it is not turning out to be that simple n. all three cases some very interesting dynamics. the republican incumbent in kentucky trying for a second te...

Just that the fact that we kind of canonize this person as a saint before knowing anything is a little premature. steve: all we know about the person, the whistleblower, who is not guaranteed anonymity, then the folks can decide whether or not what they said was motivated by politics or something else. we don't know. brian: i guess they are going to slam dunk the whistleblower and try to keep him under wraps, see if republicans have success in finding out who it is. meanwhile, vice president pence slam dunks the nba. >> in siding with the chinese communist party and silencing free speech, the ...

Enforcement, you've seen cases that are slam dunks. you've seen cases that are close calls, not sure. should we charge? should we not charge? do we have here? you've seen cases get dismissed in court. you've -- and not been surprised and then sometimes surprised because you understand the various waeights that evidence can have. what's your assessment of the case against the president that robert mueller assembled in this report? >> lawrence, when the report first came out and i had an opportunity to read it and remember as a member of both committees i've had an opportunity to read the unred ...