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Campaign. He did not do that. And if he abused his power, most likely he would tell president zelensky that he was asking to help his president ial prospects . You would never engage in conduct nor explicitly say, in this case, president zelensky, im going to bribe you now, or im going to ask you for a bribe, or im now going to extort you. This is not the way these things work. Getting back to you, we talked about hunter biden. Hunter biden had been on the board of burisma going back to 2014, correct . Yes. President trump supported ukraine with aid and otherwise in both 2017 and 2018, correct...

We've heard testimony already. mr. trump said to president zelensky that he should speak to two people, his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, and the attorney general barr, correct? >> yep. >> immediately after this call memorandum was released, isn't it the case that attorney general barr and the department of justice issued a statement about his role in all this? >>. >> he did. >> let's put up the statement. slide 13, please. t from the department of justice. the president has not spoken with the attorney general about having ukraine investigate anything related to former vice president biden ...

Croft said, the only reason given was that this order came on the the drekof the direction president. was there an order given? >> yes, to the national security council, literally every one of the agencies that believed that the aid was vital and had already been approved and should be released immediately. >> in the minority staff report and in mr. castor's testimony earlier, he said the u.s. did not convey the policy of the ukranians. that wasn't correct, was it? didn't mr. sondland convey that, according to mr. sondland's testimony? >> mr. sondland conveyed that the release of the aid was c...

>> the interesting thing about jennifer williams' testimony, she did not mention anything to the vice president's office when the vice president was meeting with zelensky, she didn't even raise it as a potential issue that might catch the vice president off guard. so her concern that she articulated during the course of the deposition and during the course of the hearing was incongruent with the facts and what she did during times relevant. >> mr. castor, lighet's look at your report. you wrote in the report about ms. williams. if we could put up slide 6, please. and sir, you made the same poi...

Until she balked in twalked in r her deposition. >> when you said she described the call as unusual, that's not all she said, was it? >> she said it was unusual. >> that's not all she said, was it? >> okay. she was here for nine hours in the bunker, so she said a lot about the call. >> can we put the slide up better, because we can't see. >> i'm happy to read it. jennifer bill yawilliams testif that, quote, although she found the call to be unusual, end of quote, she did not raise concerns to her supervisor. isn't it a fact, sir, that miss williams said a lot more than that. >> mr. chairman, i...