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>> ali, it is interesting, the point is interesting, at the end of the week we had a gdp number from the first part of the year. that was much weaker than the 4th quarter so it is sort of crystallizes the white house view that the economy is growing but you need to be careful that you don't pull away the stimulus too soon. >> yeah. the problem is when we are deteriorating, they are doing so similarly. now we have the problem where there are different debt to gdp levels in the world and we are at a g-20 where there are lots of countries represented here. more than 20 by the way who have differe...

Tell you for what? i have been talking to my friend, amanda lang, now the senior business correspondent for the cbc. you think something will come out of this never mind what it gets for canada? >> i don't think that the $1 billion security tag necessarily well spent. that is a pretty hefty one. i think it is easy to dismiss these kinds of meetings, as photo ops. we know in the business world that they matter. having a drink, talking about your personal lives, it does make a difference and to the extent that we know that works for ceo's, i think we should get the world leaders together and the...

Area in northern alberta and it is an absolute disaster. we are getting one million barrels of this stuff a day. there are serious repercussions for the good people of canada for relying on this toxic -- >> here is the issue. around the world we are trying to find as many ways as possible to get this fossil fuel and harness it. this is the grease pardon the pun for the way the world operates. y it came out of dutch harbor and was processed in china is because oil is there and we are still using it and addicted to it. that is the bottom line. >>absolutely. the global economy runs on oil. if it ...

Canada is smack in the middle of those two views. what america does happens to us. on the other hand we believe in osterity and getting the housz house in order. maybe it makes sense that the g-20 is in toronto today. >> we'll talk about how relevant this actually is. it costs a lot of money to host the world in canada. but do these things actually amount to something. >> or is it a frconference of summits and what really gets down. one nation is going to get more attention than the rest.