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Opening, small d democratic openings and human rights, there therefore they're going to roll back anything connected to the government in the form of the cuban military. the problem of course, is that here in cuba, a lot is run by the military. as in many countries. the cuban military for instance, when raul castro was the defense minister, he ran economic reform here. so hotels and the airport and a lot of other institutions that would be private in the united states are in fact, public here. so if you're going to roll back anything connected to the cuban military, are you basically going to ...

Something like this. >> this is a desperate attempt for relevance because the democrats, the people of thece progressive side of american society, have moved away from the party. when you see this town hall meetings, that is the real democrats, the "small d" democrats. m >> bill: did you think that maxine waters would've been on here if she had said, oh, rex tillerson, i don't like him, i think he is a jerk. >> one thing that is different, donald trump is the most famous person of our lifetime, at least, if not, i think he is more famous than lincoln, thanan fdr, i think that donald trump, com...

Media when it's doing its job and doing its job well, i would say, in the past week especially challenging trump, i think is dangerous. and that's why i and my running mate from the campaign mindy fin, we have established and launched a new organization called stand up republic to help protect our democratic institutions and this is part of it. >> small d democratic. >> yes, that's right. we're conservative you know what, jake, this isn't a republican democrat conservative liberal progressive sort of issue. the protection, our freedom of the press and importance of the press in our system, the...

So shrewd, that says, realignment. >> yeah bill, that's interesting, the timing on having the union folks here. i'm sure this is not coincidenceal, the killing off tpp, the transpacific partnership today, rum blings that something may be coming. and you look at the states that donald trump tipped. those are classic union states. pennsylvania and washington, ohio, michigan, places like that. i remember nixon trying something like this in the early '70s, is trump bringing it back now? can he have success there? >> two quick things. again, as a member of the press corps, most of the people apprec...

But had to go out and someone would say, you told us yesterday this. he said, yesterday's news is not operative. >> the real communicator here is donald trump. we have to see how donald trump handles the huge power he will have as the president and communicator. >> there's one other job you have that people don't realize unless you are a member of the white house press corps and go overseas. you go overseas, we're all on the same team. there's fights that take place overseas when it comes to press access, more in the small d democratic way. every press secretary has fought for this in differen...