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Thank you very much, cher. you're great. >> it was great talking to you. bye. >> joined now by the "new york times" and the washington deputy editorial page of the washington post lots of people. does it shake things loose? >> i talked to one woman today who was feeling hopeless, depressed, she cried when hillary lost. hearing michael moore to call congress run for office, that inspired her and told her, i can take these specific actions and i talked to women across the mall today who were saying, this is just the beginning. i'm here with my family. people there with three, four, generations s...

Types of plaque men triggered by the war on drugs. today's rally has been dubbed justice or else. we have been talking to participants and the one on the mall today he joins us now from washington. >> howe are you doing, melissa? ? before sunrise, thousands gather here for the 20th anniversary of the mill man march. it's hard to believe there were 20 years. when you look at this crowd, you see thousands of thousands of not just black men, black men, his spanics have been invited. native americans come here on the mall. now you spoke about last time, again it was atonement, about responsibility...

And we had nothing to protect ourselves from them. and so we got a sense of two white guys sort of what it's like in that area for them every day. i walked around the neighborhood asking people, everyone said i can't go to the store without being hassled or searched or having to sit on the curb sit there for an hour while people come and you're humiliated. so we saw that. so i really wasn't surprised. we ran over from the office to get to the mall today. it was war. it was tactical with the riot police shooting gas shooting rubber rubber bullets at the protesters and the protesters throwing ro...

Let's say that. the s&p, the nasdaq, they are also in positive territory. this has been a stellar year for stocks. on tuesday, the dow closed above 18,000 for the first time ever. and if you're like millions of americans, you're probably heading out to the mall today. this is a critical day for retailers across america. in fact, it's the second-busiest shopping day of the year. it's also a popular day to return those gifts that weren't quite right. you know what i'm talking about, right? after christmas exchanges and returns, they are a $65 billion tradition, according to the national retail f...

Malls. they seem to be coming out and going to their cars and getting ready to go home or at least to leave the mall. perhaps this means that they have finished evacuated all the people who were in the mall today. the people who were in the mall at the time of the shooting, did as they had heard they should do in these situations, that is they sheltered in place as best as they could. shoppers described what they were hearing and seeing inside the mall, here's more on that. >> i was working at the time, heard some loud noises, sounded like a transformer blown to me. you know, that noise. and t...