Fact that -- i don't believe that jeffrey clark was doing this on his own. this is an environmental lawyer. he was, you know, head of that division, solo part of that division. he had no experience in any of this. the e-mails and all suggest there were things being sent to him, letters being prepared. there's more behind this than we've seen so far. now whether or not the committee can get to that because jeffrey clark took the fifth when he was called which, by the way, was a fwarly smart thing to do rather than being held in contempt was to take the fifth, but the fact is i just believe ther...