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Surrogates out, specifically wanting them to push back against chirons, the lower thirds that appear with information about the story, saying that those were unfair to the white house, basically contending that sean spicer and others in the press operation hadn't been doing enough. so it seems like someone wants the idea out there that kushner is really pushing hard to fight on behalf of don junior. i think that might in part be because a lot of people suspect what you suspect, that kushner or people around kushner are behind some of these leaks. i'm actually personally skept cat of the theory...

Contending that sean spicer and others in the press operation hadn't been doing enough. so it seems like someone wants the idea out there that kushner is really pushing hard to fight on behalf of don junior. i think that might in part be because a lot of people suspect what you suspect, that kushner or people around kushner are behind some of these leaks. i'm actually personally skept cat of the theory that kushner is the big leaker here because if he is, that's kind of stupid because this meeting is very damaging to both him and don junior. so sort of getting out there the idea that, oh, don ...

Smart p.r. people would have advised him to be behind any of these specific leaks. >> i'm going to do my quick summation of the jared team being the leakers theory. first of all, i'm sorry, but we don't have a choice of getting a smart leaker from the white house. they're all stupid. so all leakers would be stupid. that's just in the system there. that can't be stopped. but the theory of it, jonathan capehart, as josh has heard me say on the show is that jared kushner knew this was coming out. his lawyers found the e-mails. that's why we know the e-mails exist. he knew that this was going to c...

You leave the room and all that stuff. it drives me insane and make mess watch something else. >> eric: can't we just have california sede from the union. >> dana: what could go wrong? >> joe: this is designed to give pickup of the program. >> dana: smart p.r. thing but as greg said it's slightly disturbing. >> andrea: look what happened in massachusetts when they came out with romneycare. the problem was people weren't signing up for it and it became an issue. people who were signing up were really sick. that's costly. so the feds are picking up the tab for the obamacare exchanges. eventually...

You leave the room and all that stuff. it drives me insane and make mess watch something else. >> eric: can't we just have california sede from the union. >> dana: what could go wrong? >> joe: this is designed to give pickup of the program. >> dana: smart p.r. thing but as greg said it's slightly disturbing. >> andrea: look what happened in massachusetts when they came out with romneycare. the problem was people weren't signing up for it and it became an issue. people who were signing up were really sick. that's costly. so the feds are picking up the tab for the obamacare exchanges. eventually...