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And more, attorney george conway with the washington post, thank you. >> nice to be here. >> there's a smoking spreadsheet. there is a lot here, and there are two books, and there is a pattern and there's 15 years. what's your take away? >> right, that's absolutely correct. we saw the trump organization lawyer going out in front of the courthouse yesterday saying, oh, well, you know, fringe benefits, it's complicated, it's not clear, taxes, it's not clear. this is way over the line, and that spreadsheet is absolutely a smoking spreadsheet. keeping two sets of books -- the sp spreadsheet was ba...

Donald trump, in the indictment, is, basically, nonexistent. >> well, first, let's get smoking spreadsheet into the vernacular, if we can. second, to the point of how closely the former president might be tied to this. tim, i want to ask you about that because you have this piece in bloomberg today which is really interesting and it references the 2007 deposition stemming from an unsuccessful libel suit the former president filed against you. what did trump say under oath about how closely he worked with weisselberg on the company finances? >> that they worked hand in glove, john. and that it ...

Prosecutors attempts up to this point. >> based on what we see and i know there's maybe more we haven't seen, yet. but if he did flip, to what end? i mean, where would they have him take them, going forward? >> in these types of cases when it comes to tax fraud, proving that a defendant's knowledge and intent is -- is key to the case. and so, having a former employee or a current employee that was able to provide that type of evidence would be incredibly helpful in bringing additional charges. >> intent, you can't just prove, on a smoking spreadsheet, right? >> no. but it's pretty clear. i mea...

Of checks and direct deposits. you know, and that indirect compensation was not included on w-2 forms. i mean, that's a smoking spreadsheet right there. they were avoiding paying taxes. >> that is whatt it seems like, at this point. and, you know, we are early into the case. and cases are, of course, tried in court and not just on the face of the indictment. but based on what we saw yesterday, it does seem like it's a strong-documentary case. >> as someone who's covered this extensively for so long, what questions does this raise for you? obviously, there is the big one and, that is, so, what'...