difficult situations, both police departments, the capitol police and the metropolitan police department in washington were struck by a lot of -- and sick because of covid, then this particular january 6th this weighs heavily on everybody, and i think each one of the chiefs and officers are concerned and brianna and john, everybody has an obligation to look out and be mindful of everybody else. >> i think that's something that everyone needs to take to heart and certainly i hope that officers are being vigilant of each other. i suspect that they are. you know, paul, we've talked a lot in the past about mental health when it comes to the military, and we're seeing some parallels here. this was really a battle that these officers were in on january 6th. what are you thinking as you are seeing this news that four officers have died by suicide? >> i'm thinking it's time to get serious about mental health in