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That the client wanted to know that this was coming to an end, and everything was going to be okay. and dowd was trying to reassure him so that he wouldn't get panicky. apparently the president, emotionally, is at point where he feels i'm sick of this. it's not endingnd i want out, i feel i'm being unfairly targeted. >> you could hear the president, what am i paying you for, right? [laughing] you're paying this new legal team -- >> there you go. >> -- for their advice. the point i was trying to make in terms of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, should make clear, those would b...

Robert mueller. john dowd was very much in opposition to that idea. didn't see a real reason for it. particularly with the tense upon tens of thousands of pages of documents, e-mails, other materials that he and ty cobb had been producing to the mueller investigation. whereas people like toy cobb and sekulow were along the lines the president should be sitting down with the special counsel as long as there are narrow parameters of what the special council can ask about, to bring this investigation to a quick close. dowd had been putting together a legal argument that would sort of put mueller ...

Brief the other members of the team on what you should be doing or shouldn't be doing. >> i think probably what really led to his resignation was tensions within the legal team itself. again, dowd being on the side of, if you go to have the president sit down with mueller there has to be a good reason for it, he didn't think it was a particularly good idea. other people, including judge napolitano have spoken up to say you don't want to sit your client down for an interview with some one who owns a grand jury and he has two. you had sekulow and ty cobb saying the president should sit down for ...

>> he did. >> thanks for the news off the top here. let's analyze. from the fox business network, dagen mcdowell. co-sank kor of "after the bell" melissa francis. republican strategist and fox news contributor lisa booth. fox news political analyst and co-host of "the five" juan williams. great to have you all. let's get to the meat of the point here. the president making changes just as he said he would. >> well, i think that this is evidence of, we've talked about chaos in terms of the white house and people coming and going quite a clip. now, inside the legal team, which is so important to ...

Difficult for john dowd to maintain the same sort of relationship that he has had with the president. for the last nine or ten months. so dowd decided it was time to resign. quite a strain, taking the role of the lead outside attorney. i don't know how much that might have played into it. dowd has decided that he is not going to be with the president's legal team any more. leaves him with two attorneys on the outside. joe de genova along with jay seculow, a familiar face on fox news. those two are now taking the helm. the outside counsel for the president, there are plans to bring more attorne...