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Powell and others. there's a lot there and we need to follow up with him on all of these texts and other documents. and i think we should soon be getting a very large amount of material from the national archives. there may be additional things there that would stimulate the questions. so he is not the only person with information but he has a lot of information that the committee needs. >> congresswoman lofgren, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> joining us now is former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin and former nixon white house counsel john dean and chief polit...

Our investigation is ongoing. if we could cue the first graphic. this one reads, on january 6th, 2021, vice president mike pence as president of the senate should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all. you can see why this is so critical to ask mr. meadows about, about a lawmaker suggesting that the former vice president simply throw out votes that he unilaterally deems unconstitutional. >> i mean, jeffrey, how significant is that, a sitting lawmaker texting that to the white house chief of staff? >> you know, one useful way of thinking...

Without question, i began studying these types of personalities. i've done a couple books on the subject. these people are pretty helpless. they want the approval and they want what their authoritarian figure tells them to do. and if they're also authoritarians, they think this will be to their benefit someday. and so they want to behave like the authoritarian that they are following and think is the strong leader, so when they have their turn, they can expect likewise from their followers. it's not complex, but it's very pathetic, actually. >> jeffrey, i want to play a clip of something congr...

Hack hillary clinton's e-mails. that was going on at the d nnchdnc. he was so cavalier about what russia was orr what it could be, talking about what a great and powerful leader he was. this was not just naivete and arrogance, it was dangerous policy. it's striking this morning, that the republicans, the republican party, a strong anti-soviet and an anti-russian party standing up for u.s. interest has decided to sit this out and let it all unfold. >> so jeffrey, president trump and his son are being defended from one corner and that is the kremlin. they just moments ago mutt out a statement, f...

Plane you and i are going to fight for the next 17 days. and he said why. and i said, because i know you're going to win and that comment you just made sounds like you think you're going to lose. and we're going to argue about it until you win. >> and what's his response? >> he said, okay, honey, then we'll win. >> for a time after conway took over, trump was disciplined but not anymore, especially on twitter. >> literally people will seriously say, can't you delete his twitter app. >> that was one of my questions. >> of course, it's not for me to take away a grown man's twitter account. >> i ...