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As an employer of certain individuals. >> yep. >> um, there have been depositions in this case, already, from mr. keith shiller, mr. matthew calamari. so you can imagine what subjects might have been covered with mr. trump in this deposition but i won't get into them at this point. >> ben, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. and next, colin powell and one of his final and most revealing interviews before his death. >> whenever that is asked of me, i said true i am a reluctant warrior. i don't like wars. plus breaking news. joe manchin and bernie sanders embroiled in a nasty and pe...

>> right. and that's the lesson, right? because he got it from somewhere and that's the tragedy, right? doctor, i really appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. and next, joe manchin and bernie sanders together tonight looking almost friendly despite this war of words. >> i don't believe that we should turn our society into an entitlement society. >> does senator manchin not believe that our children and grandchildren are entitled to live in a country and a world that is healthy and is habitable? and more than a third of chicago police officers defying the city vaccine manda...

Know that it will save your life and potentially can save the life of a friend, a family member, or a member of the public. >> and yet, here you are now, you know, after -- after -- after, you know, that -- that -- it -- you -- your are out of a job right now and you stood up for this. so when asked about your future plans, i know one of the things you said, chief, which i thought was interesting, quote, my mom and dad didn't come here for us to be quitters. your parents, of course, did come to the u.s. from cuba. so what's next for you? i mean, are you going to fight the city's decision -- de...

And in la, the sheriff says he would lose 5 to 10% of his workforce. you know, it -- it's pretty stunning. what do you say to those concerns? >> well, i would say that, look, pay attention to what's going on. we are losing more police officers to covid to a death from a virus that is preventable that we know the science shows us that if you are vaccinated, the likelihood of dying from covid is almost zero. so, i would just say that, you know, we need to put -- take a timeout. take a step back. push the emotion side and just start getting the information from public health authorities and under...