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Giuliani to say, see, we wanted to do this but mueller took us to court and he's politicizing this right before the midterms. >> i want to be clear. you're suggesting that jay sekulow live has a purpose. i don't know that we've been able to confirm that yet, mike lupica. i don't know that that radio show has a purpose or not, all respect given. i want to play a little bit more from, again, the bizarre interactions on this show with callers and then your response, mike, take a look. >> the taxpayers have been paying for this so-called special investigation that is clearly biased against our pre...

Websites, publishers or platf m platforms in the united states. that's not typically done. but what does that line of questioning tell you and also roger stone be risky for the president? >> mueller is clearly looking at both obstruction of justice but also still at what we've come to call collusion, this idea of conspiracy to defraud the united states. and it looks from this list of questions like the president is either to believed to be either a very central witness or perhaps a subject or a target. of course we all know that mueller won't really indict the president, but he could write a v...

Have concluded this. >> yes. >> donald trump's aides have cleaned up his denials to reassert that it happened that way and mueller has charged it with a lot of detail. again, i have to be clear, it hasn't been proven in court but if your position and assange's position that the original hack wasn't the russians, he might very well end up per injuring himself before the committee. >> i don't think so. he's a very smart man and a very honest person. i think he has a lot to say. if they're looking to get to the bottom of this, he will be totally vindicated. >> how so? >> that's my opinion. >> how...

Reason why they're keeping him in there until he comes out and then they'll arrest him for bail skipping. they don't have charges that have been made public. a lot of people don't think there are charges. remember, this is not the roman empire. in the roman empire in rome you had laws for roman citizens and different laws in macedonia and egy egypt. everybody is subjected to the same laws. the first amendment, whether it's someone from the bbc or somebody from "the london times," they get the benefit of the first amendment. so does he. >> let me read to you from the indictment just to make sur...

With him. so mueller is obviously in trying to stitch up russia and the u.s. looking very hard at stone. >> and whether or not stone was a potential back channel. julia, i know from reporting have i done with others here that the witnesses that robert mueller is so far spoken to, they have been asked by mueller's team pretty pointed questions about roger stone. and what did roger stone know? what was he doing? did he really leave the campaign in 2015? stone says he quit. the trump team said he was fired. but did he really leave or was there some sort of unofficial role that he was playing behi...