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Cooperating with the special counsel. it's true we don't know exactly what mueller's interest in george nader is but again, whatever it is he's providing, it is evidence in this kasz that is now before a grand jury. >> interesting. shimon, thank you. joining me is cnn legal and national security analyst and former fbi special agent, how significant is it that george nader is cooperating with the special counsel? >> to me brianna, this is significant because it's showing that mueller is really expanding the scope of his investigation. it's looking internationally that there were potentially eve...

On manafort, he issued a subpoena and executed a search warrant. what he was turning over was not everything he asked for. so mueller lost the option of getting a search warrant if he hasn't already to get these communications. the communications are important, don, because they are in writing. to the extent that he is interviewing nunberg or other people, there is a certain amount of written verification that can catch them if they are not telling the truth about the kinds of communication and the purposes he can get them from other means and right now nunberg is very reluctant to turn this i...

Didn't show up, and we have a lawful grand jury subpoena. and the judge will order him to appear and will hold him in contempt if he refuses to appear. and that does mean -- that means he'll be held in jail. so, you know, we still have four days left to figure out what he does. >> but there was a 3:00 p.m. deadline today for junebenunber turn over documents and he didn't comply with that. >> that's true. so mueller's team could go in tomorrow and ask the judge. again, i agree that they will try to get him through that door. they will try to get the documents. it sort of almost goes without say...

Essentially two things. one, the person who is the obstruct tore is acting with corrupt intent, meaning not accidentally, and two, that they're doing so in an effort to interfere with an ongoing investigation. so mueller has to determine whether or not on these questions about what sessions was being badgered into doing, quitting or not quitting, mr. mcgahn was asked to not recuse himself, whether mcgahn was being asked to go to rosenstein, to have rosenstein fire the special counsel. all of these things speak to the state of mind of the president. mueller has to determine whether that's calls...

And he was there and saw it and is willing to testify about it. and by the way, he quit over it. that reporting about mark corallo was a month ago. since then, he has had his interview with robert mueller. there's no reason to believe that he changed his mind as to what he was going to tell mueller and his investigators, and now things seem to be moving very quickly. the "washington post" reports another person was josh raffel, a white house spokesperson who works very closely with jared kushner, they were involved with internal discussions in july about how to respond to questions about the t...