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Accurate. >> but is track record, a person's history, their character, all of that comes into play when measuring credibility. >> it does. and trump going to say that comey has been all over the place in the past year, and there's going to be some things that trump has said demonstrably that's untrue. i think comey's got the nod if you're going to put in the fact that one person has made notes. >> page, you're kind of grimacing on all of that? >> all of that is important but also it's motive to lie. is it comey or the president who's under investigation for obstruction? if you add all those fa...

Him. so you have these two men who strike a nerve with different factions of people, and i think it's really interesting to, you know, see how this plays out in the court of public opinion. yes. it'sing to watch people's reaction to both men. >> thanks to all of you. steve, page, salena, after break. tomorrow, jake tappert sitting down with diane fine fine. that's at 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on cnn, and we'll be right back.