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Get alice johnson released, he also pushed for the reality star to get that oval office meeting with the president. so van, how did you get involved in this? >> i've been working on criminal justice issues for 25 years, believe it or not. it's my first passion when i got out of law school was working on these issues, so i had been working on alice johnson's case during the obama administration, #clemencynow was a campaign we were running under the obama administration, and obama, to his great credit, got about 1,700 people, similar situations, out of prison, but she got left behind. and the cl...

Happen. if donald trump called you and said, look, i don't like your protest, your flag stuff, whatever, i'm going to put that to one side. come to oval office and talk to me about a substantive issue like criminal justice reform, would you do it? >> i would definitely consider it. if i wouldn't, what is it i'm trying to accomplish. if you can go directly to the president of the united states and talk about these issues plaguing our communities, that's a responsibility for us, regardless of how you feel about somebody on a personal level. >> so van, he's not going to the white house because he...

Chris, we had real concern that you might have a weaponized, politicized fbi being unleashed. you also had concerns maybe they were going to back off of these white supremacist groups and they have. we never thought that you would have the gop take a wrecking ball to the fbi, tt the would y to destroy the fbi and that you would have people like myself out here trying to defend the fbi. this is so crazy and it's so nuts that literally people don't know what to do. when the leader of the democratic party, nancy pelosi, is looking at this and she's saying herself, i can't get out here and tell yo...

Happening. that's the problem. you have a bipartisan -- both political parties should be proud of the fact that for the past seven years we've had that unemployment rate coming down. obama had his share and so did trump. it's a bipartisan success. >> van, i love hearing you say president trump did a good job. >> if the president got out of his own way, dave, and said less inflammatory things, he would hear that more often. let's see what he says tomorrow night. stick around. "the final fact" is next. samsung galaxy phones get a samsung galaxy s8 free. yahoooo! ahoooo! plus, unlimited family ...

Country becauut the president md the point. what jay-z was saying was it's good we're having these numbers continuing to improve -- obviously it started under obama -- but it still doesn't get the president off the hook for some of his rhetoric and the way he says demeaning things about people, and it's hard to raise kids when the parents are saying things like s-hole, et cetera. let me say one more quick thing. i would love to hear what david says about this. just one more quick thing here. under obama, you had the unemployment rate for black people falling 1.8%, 1.6% a year. under trump it f...