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On capitol hill that president trump admitted he fired the fbi director because of the russia investigation or at the very least had it in his mind when he did. joining me from washingtoning ton d.c., jennifer rubon, olivia nitzi, joy reed, jason johnson and michelle goldberg. jennifer, that interview was a turning point because we have not had an interview with the president with a non- -- i think this is correct, with a not fox outlet since then, not conservative, sort of friendly outlet since then. i think there's an awareness around the people around him, that they kind of can't let him go...

Jennifer, that interview was a turning point because we have not had an interview with the president with a non- -- i think this is correct, with a not fox outlet since then, not conservative, sort of friendly outlet since then. i think there's an awareness around the people around him, that they kind of can't let him go out there and talk anymore because there are actual legal ramifications at this point. >> right, and it is not even that they will talk to anyone at fox. they won't talk to chris wallace, for example. they won't talk to brit baer who are news people. he is doing softball inter...

Week or so beforehand he had no idea so because trump doesn't do these interviews he can stay on message. what we don't know is whether he has the basic knowledge to be president. hillary clinton even though she has avoided the press they have a good idea of that. >> it's amaze houg the narrative returns. donald trump only sat down with hannity and fox news. he hasn't done a press conference and only softball interviews from people he appreciates and loves and adores. hillary clinton -- >> that's not impressive. >> it's amazing how it turned but it's like donald trump is hiding, period. when h...

These cases is the eyewitness testimony of each of the victims of the alleged sexual assault. that is very serious evidence and would be treated very seriously in any courtroom, but it is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. and so, as melania trump doing what most people do and just blurring the distinction between evidence and proof? is melania trump saying no woman should ever accuse a man of sexual assault if that woman does not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt? is melania trump saying no woman should ever accuse a man of sexual assault if that assault happens the way most assaults hap...

Maid by made by a woman who is the only witness to her sexual assault? we don't know, because softball interviews don't pursue questions like that. as donald trump has been sinking in recent polls, presumably because of his own bragging of sexual assault, he has tried to change the subject to how the he election is rigged and how the media has gone aalong. which subject do you think donald trump would like the might yeah media to be talking about? accusations against him or that the election is rigged? that's why he is talking about a rigged election. that's why he's saying these crazy things ...