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>> if that guy goes before the grand jury and says this guy was not advancing on officer miller. this guy was not given commands to stop. this guy was not a threat. that's it. that's the ball game. he's going to get indicted. >> that's a softball question. that would be murder. that's not his testimony. he was going to say he was advancing towards him and he reasonably feared the guy would disarm him -- >> the second cop. >> the second cop did not say that mark. he is the experienced one. the rookie cop, still in training had a knee-jerk reaction. that's why he is terminated and there will be ...

But scott walker's a pretty good talker. it seems like he's got it all going on really. but then he does take the crank call from the guy he thinks is david koch and the release of his state e-mails and we get to see hip writing a special han can message and he writes thank you again and mazeltov but what he actually writes is thank you again animal lo tov. there's a whole bunch of stuff like that including miscalculating how to handle a softball question about whether he feels at all daunted by the prospect of becoming commander in chief. >> is do the prospect of being commander in chief daup...

It seems like he's got it all going on really. but then he does take the crank call from the guy he thinks is david koch and the release of his state e-mails and we get to see hip writing a special han can message and he writes thank you again and mazeltov but what he actually writes is thank you again animal lo tov. there's a whole bunch of stuff like that including miscalculating how to handle a softball question about whether he feels at all daunted by the prospect of becoming commander in chief. >> does the prospect of being commander in chief daunt you? because the world you require is go...

To set it in context, we didn't get the whole tape. we don't know way said afterward. i will say the last couple of outings by bill clinton have really made me suspect this is not the bill clinton of old. that he is actually missing a step. the bill clinton of old would never have allowed a softball question like that just go answered with some joke that can be used in attack ads against his wife now from here until eternity. i just work here. i don't know. >> he's good at brushing it off. you never get the full answer. >> here's the problem. that worked in 1992 and 1996. that kind of stonewal...

My question tonight is what the hell does that mean? they are drafting legislation to address concerns the law could result in discrimination. all the pressure is on mike pence. you have to understand who this guy is. he comes from a culture of right-wing radio in america. that's where he's been for a long time. they can say whatever they want. they can think whatever they want and they can do whatever they want with no ramifications whatsoever, and that's the kind of governor he is right now, but this time pence has crossed the line. see when you're governor you're supposed to be representing...