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Protector of the environment, as an activist and attorney specializing in environmental law. while putting everyone's obvious initial reaction aside, robert, is it time for more nuclear energy in the united states? or less? >> i've always, a nuke is good if we can ever make it safe and if we can ever make it commercial. john rohe, the president and ceo of xelon which has the biggest fleet of nuclear power plants in north america said ten days ago there is no case for nuclear power in our country. and this was before the big catastrophe in japan. the problem with nukes is it's too expensive. it...

This? >> well you know, we built nuclear power fleet in about 25 years in this country. we can move and build a solar fleet, and a wind fleet much, much faster. right now one of my companies i'm on the board of vantage point, the biggest green tech venture capital firm in this country. one of our portfolio companies, bright source, is building the biggest power plant, one of the biggest power plants in north america ever built of any kind, 2.7 giga watts, almost three times the size of a nuclear power plant. we're going to build the whole plant within three years. it would take ten to 20 years...

Alternative to coal which is a serious pollutant, i think you would agree with that. oil, which is volatile and exposed to geopolitical problems, and is not endlessly in supply. wind and solar, great, but strictly supplemental, despite what some people have said last week, we do not have the geography for that right now, tell me the best solution for this. >> we built nuclear power fleet in about 25 years in this country. we can move and build a solar fleet and wind fleet much, much faster. right now one of my companies, i'm on the board of vantage point, the biggest green tech venture capital...