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as a huge surprise given the well-established history inside trump world of pressuring potential witnesses in key investigations. washington post lays it out like this, quote. evidence across multiple state, federal and congressional investigations points to a similar pattern. trump and his close allies privately shower potential witnesses with flattery and attention extending vague assurances that staying loyal to trump would be better than crossing him. meanwhile, trump publicly blasts those who offer testimony against him in bluntly personal terms offering a clear example to other...

2002. why do you think your son was stopped so many times? >> because he was black. because he was black. i mean, nobody can be that unlucky. and nobody is that horrible of a driver. it wasn't he ran a stop sign or was in a car accident, it's none of that. it's what they call now pretext stops. >> for the most part, equipment violations are used as a pretext to pull somebody over, tends to be people on the poor side of town, often times with minorities, those are stops where the officer first decided they wanted to have a conversation with the driver, and second, figured out a way to pull them...

Pulled over, said momma, i'm being pulled over, i said for what, because he had an air freshener in his rear view mirror. >> reporter: do you think that's a legitimate reason to pull someone over? >> no, to be pulled over for minor traffic stuff, it's systemic racism, a way for police officers to have a reasoning to pull somebody over, and it ends up in death or incarceration that doesn't need to have happen. >> reporter: once police learn wright had a warrant, they tried to arrest him. wright tried to flee. what were your hopes and dreams for dante? >> to get married one day, to watch him rai...

Driver. it wasn't he ran a stop sign or in a car accident. it's none of that. it's what they call now pretext stop. >> for the most part, equipment violations are often used as a pretext to pull somebody over, tends to be people on the poor side of town, often times it's minister. those are stops where the officer first decided that they want to have a conversation with the driver. and second figured out a way to pull him over. >> when you say conversation you're talking about an investigation. >> a conversation goes like this. do you know why i pulled you over? knows, i have no idea. you made...

Rear-view mirror and expired tags. tlofs a big argument about whether that's grounds to pull somebody over, especially the air freshener. kristin, from my conversations with prosecutors and defense attorneys, putting a -- putting a defendant on the stand is extremely risky, but we've soon a for you of them lately go to try to defend themselves. what did you make of her testimony? do you think as david thinking, that that was ultimately what did her in? >> i don't know if that's what did her in. i think david and i disagree on how the prosecution put in their indication, but i think it was unhe...