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Criminals who aren't terrorists. i will employ the -- this event shows that all of his pals are free. >> juan: you mean the 74. >> greg: yeah, the 74. but it's insane that they had this rehab conference on a street among innocent people. that is the most dangerous street in the history of the world. >> juan: coming back to what katie was saying, can you really do you radicalize somebody question mike they have these training sessions, including the one he was attending in order to do radicalize these people. >> dana: i don't know. i think you would have to trust authorities and intelligence of...

Standing when he was fired. but a defense expert testified, quote, the initial trajectory of the bullet was just above the surface of the asphalt, suggesting he was knocked to the ground. michael giles was convicted of aggravated battery and sentenced to 25 years in jail. but his family says he was standing his ground, and they're fighting for his freedom. joining me now is phyllis giles, michael giles' mother and florida state senator dwight bullet, who was been pushing for michael giles' sentence to be commuted. thank you for being here. >> thank you, reverend al sharpton. >> phyllis, you be...