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He knows that i'm doing this. so he is very hopeful that when the petition rolls up 200,000, he is very home. >> phyllis giles and state senator dwight bullard, thank you. >> thank you. >> so much for your time. and i promise we'll be following michael's story closely. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. >> thank you, sir. still ahead, is chris christie trying to avoid questions about the bridge scandal? we'll tell you what happened at a town hall held in very friendly territory. plus, the gop's ted nugent problem. why are some republicans trying to downplay his vile comments about president ...

Sentenced to 25 years. what is wrong with that law, senator? >> oh, naturally, what's wrong with it has been wrongfully applied in two high profile cases. in the case of ms. alexander, and of course in the case of michael giles. you see a situation in which you have a victim of domestic violence. and in the case of mr. giles, the victim of assault. so somehow you create the commission of a crime when there was no crime committed. and in both instances, you wrongfully convict both a woman who is being abused and, again, i can't reiterate enough, a war veteran who was being assaulted outside of ...

Standing when he was fired. but a defense expert testified, quote, the initial trajectory of the bullet was just above the surface of the asphalt, suggesting he was knocked to the ground. michael giles was convicted of aggravated battery and sentenced to 25 years in jail. but his family says he was standing his ground, and they're fighting for his freedom. joining me now is phyllis giles, michael giles' mother and florida state senator dwight bullet, who was been pushing for michael giles' sentence to be commuted. thank you for being here. >> thank you, reverend al sharpton. >> phyllis, you be...

but the headline, he is confident this battle is far from over. >> did michael dunn get away with murder? >> not yet. >> not yet. we heard from juror four yesterday who thinks dunn did get away with murder in the killing of 17-year-old jordan davis. but was there something the state could have done better? >> do you have run across your mind you wish you had done anything differently? >> always. there is always things you can do differently, different evidence, different argument, better performance. there is never a perfect trial. slow it be better the next time. >> so he is talking...