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note, i wish you a very good night. from across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me and i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. tonight, the defense makes its case for reasonable doubt. >> the real argument was michael cohen cannot be trusted. >> michael cohen is the goat. the greatest liar of all time. >> the judge's sharp rebuke to trump's attorney. >> he was livid. >> he was livid as he should be. >> reporter: and the prosecution tells the story of a conspiracy to corrupt a presidential election. >> steinglass says the value of this corrupt bargain cannot b...

Seat. trey: we ask questions detached from reality, i mentioned two presidents in my lifetime got above 5 5% of the popular vote, my point. is will we see a president with a mandate 45 seconds, guy. i know you will save time for jessica. >> i am not sure we'll see someone win with 60-plus percent of the popular vote any time soon, we're in an extremely polarized country, the things that are required to win a party's nomination, make it hard, for someone to have the capacity to command 60% of a popular vote, maybe that is cynical, but in this moment in time i believe it's true. trey: i love cyn...

Seat. trey: we ask questions detached from reality, i mentioned two presidents in my lifetime got above 5 5% of the popular vote, my point. is will we see a president with a mandate 45 seconds, guy. i know you will save time for jessica. >> i am not sure we'll see someone win with 60-plus percent of the popular vote any time soon, we're in an extremely polarized country, the things that are required to win a party's nomination, make it hard, for someone to have the capacity to command 60% of a popular vote, maybe that is cynical, but in this moment in time i believe it's true. trey: i love cyn...

Seat. trey: we ask questions detached from reality, i mentioned two presidents in my lifetime got above 5 5% of the popular vote, my point. is will we see a president with a mandate 45 seconds, guy. i know you will save time for jessica. >> i am not sure we'll see someone win with 60-plus percent of the popular vote any time soon, we're in an extremely polarized country, the things that are required to win a party's nomination, make it hard, for someone to have the capacity to command 60% of a popular vote, maybe that is cynical, but in this moment in time i believe it's true. trey: i love cyn...

I get upset when people say he's too old, or -- that's the question, you know, can someone win. i mean, i remind people that people said barrack couldn't win and people said trump could not win. >> joe crowley, as the only one of us who has gone out and campaigned for votes. what is your sense of joe biden's place right now as voters in iowa, new hampshire, are still shopping? >> what i think is interesting, andrea, is that i think a number of these folks were hoping for a big joe biden stumble and that they would inherit that good will to some degree in terms of middle ground or the center le...