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Categorization, in that demo, especially if you're looking at african-american women, pretty center of the road. pretty middle of the road. they do not go in for very hyper ambitious, progressive policies. are you worried that while you may be talking the same talk on somin front, you're pushing it too much on the policy front and that could have a chilling effect? >> not at all. i tell people this all the time, african-american women, my mom and her friends are the people who choose the nominee. black women came out in droves for hillary clinton. black women voted at the tune of 94 to 96% for...

Democrat, we're american, we're black first. going into that, it's very hard to have someone who every single day makes you feel or attempts to make you feel lesser of an individual by his words and deeds because of the color of your skin. the central park five is just one of those ways in which he does it. you can't atone by that by trying to get asap rocky out of jail. it takes a little buiit more th that. >> the idea of african-american vote, if they can get another african-american, they'll always vote for them. that is not true. >> no. >> and as a policy categorization, in that demo, espe...