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Theatres if they ran this movie? >> it would be ridiculous. they threaten against south korean government to turn south korea into a sea of fire. this is completely not credible. they don't have that kind of capability in the united states. >> what is it they don't have? the people to do it? >> they don't. >> it's easy to do. timothy mcveigh showed it's very easy -- >> but north korea is very different from terrorist organization like al qaeda. it's not ideological, it's not suicidal. they don't have north korea terrorist cells inside the united states. this was just empty threat they used to ...

Korean regime ordered the cyberattack on sony. a north korean defector told rueter about the cyber cell, bureau 121 which he says has 1,800 agents in countries through the world. today, john mccain said this. the cyber attack is the latest in a and troubling list of attempts from iranian to russian attacks to china's orchestrated campaign to still military secrets from our defense contractors. the administrator's failure to deter adversaries will continue to embolden those seeking to harm the united states throughout cyberspace. and senator lindsey graham said, cyberterrorism is increasingly b...

This as a national security threat, not because sony is central to u.s. national security because this act against sony demonstrates an asymmetric cyber capability that matches up to the other capabilities that the north koreans are developing in terms of ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons, chemical and biological weapons. they have a very comprehensive strategy at developing these asymmetric capabilities, so we have to look at this as a national security threat. what do you do on top of that? there's the criminal investigation and i imagine law enforcement authorities will try to locate whoe...

Any real evidence that they could do much beyond that. in this unit 121 and so called reconnaissance bureau, the rgb within the stricture of the north korean state. we know they've been cultivating this capability. it hasn't been to the level, at least from what i understand from the public domain, it has not been to the level that we've seen in the case of sony this time. so in that sense, yeah, it's fair to say that we were surprised by this action, this attack. >> what was your reaction to the threat they made to movie theatres if they ran this movie? >> it would be ridiculous. they threate...

During the obama administration have relaxed about this and they were better than this? >> i don't think there's any kind of evidence. i don't think that's a fair point to make. i think north korean problem has been a ongoing problem the last 20 years. spans from the clinton years to bush years to obama years. this is not a fair criticism, i would say. >> what do you suppose the reaction is tonight among the north korean regime? is this a victory for them at this point? >> yeah, unfortunately i think they're pretty happy. their objective was to get this movie pulled anticipate they were succes...