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That he exited they think will be part of it. the fact that he got u.s. troops out of afghanistan is what they say is going to be key to that. what is your take on that? >> i do think that in the end history will regard the fact that we needed to exit from a forever huaraz the important p forever war is the important thing. this is a war that no longer could be won. this is what president eisenhower said shortly after he took office, was a certain kind of plea for peace. he said that every gun that is made, every rocket that is fired signifies a theft from people who are hungry and cannot be f...

>> my desire to wear cowboy boots and put a hat on right now, you're similar pa theft to -- similar pa the sympathetic of that? >> sure. >> tony i have a question for you. what do you think of new mexico? kind of what are your thoughts? >> i'm going to try to boil it down to a simple statement. if you're an easterner and you come out to new mexico, you start to see metaphors in everything. but actually, if you were to stretch a little bit you could say that new mexico is a perfect metaphor for america. it is a total mutation. it's got spanish, mexican, original american, and add a ting of radi...