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Investigating it. let's see if they find anything. i predict they won't. >> how about money laundering? >> i don't know enough about it. i don't know what happened but my guess is that that's probably a bunch of nonsense too. i know more about the quote/unquote collusion with the campaign which was nonexistent. >> so no collusion with the campaign. you don't know about money laundering. the president has continued to say this thing is a hoax. and you have to think that at least -- >> he's a business person and unfortunately washington doesn't operate like that, right. the clinton investigation...

Reform and you feel good about the tax cut, you think corporations should have had a tax cut. there are special interest groups swarming all over the place. >> there was somebody on twitter named stephanie ruhle that actually agreed with me on the tax cuts. >> i agree about a flat tax but guess what, that corporate tax cut, they didn't get rid of lots of loopholes. if they truly got rid of all the loopholes and then -- >> we both know that's a huge problem in washington, right? >> that is because of the special interest groups which is why people voted for trump to get rid of them. >> you know...

One, deleted e-mails. say we stop the nonsense on both sides now. we've been hitting each other in this dehumanizing, demonizing way. really probably for all time and politics but super hard since after watergate. we should probably knock it off. the american people don't like it. the reason why they elected president trump is they want some freshness. they want somebody new, an outsider that knows the system. >> knows what system? >> the washington establishment. >> so you said they want an outsider who knows a system. that sentence doesn't make sense. if he's an outsider, he doesn't know the...

Mother. who did? >> you tell me. you tell me. it wasn't me. >> i know one of the president's closest ceo the day after the senate bill was written up, steve schwartzman threw $100 a plate party for the president in new york city. >> so, let's stop right there because i think he's a little bit unfair to steve schwartzman. >> what am i speculating on? >> i think there's probably strong lobbyist communities hitting the congress super hard and it got left in the bill. and i think if you sat down and said, okay, should it be in the bill or not be in the bill? unfortunately, we both know these about...

Washington. at the end of the day, it is special interests and washington lobbyists and our politicianings that added 76 pages to the 1986 tax reform over 32 years. peopl like it. they never do. >> that's in this bill. that's in this law. to say president trump -- >> i know your mom is a trump supporter. >> she is. >> i bet your mom doesn't like the 76,000 pages of special interest infiltration of the american tax code. >> my mother lives in the state of new jersey and she hates what happened to the tax bill. she hates state and local. she's devastated by it. but to say president trump is comi...