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Obama's federal -- obama care federal and state marketplaces. you can fit every one of them into the michigan wolverine stadium and it still wouldn't be a sellout. in terms of breaking down these numbers, 106,185, 26,794 are through healthcare.gov. very small. 79,391 through the state exchanges in 14 states. what are your -- >> it's embarrassing for the administration. they clearly need more, wanted more. they were lowballing had this. let me take you back, the congressional budget office, which is the nonpartisan budget office, early on, estimated that 7 million people would need to be enroll...

Republican field, no offense speaker gingrich. and they went out and tried their best to convince governor christie to run. he has some very, very rich friends, governor christie. some people who have wanted him to run in 2012 and who want him now even more to run in 2016. you cannot discount how important that is when and if he actual launches his presidential race. >> after the government shutdown where republican businessmen got very nervous and very upset, now they're getting involved in primary races because they're picking the more establishment, more conservative less tea party republic...

My question is how does that wear with the voters? >> do i -- am i reading this right? did anybody pick up mr. conservative newt gingrich suggesting that actually one could sort of afford to maybe ignore some of the so-called base in an effort to get to washington. >> that wasn't his strategy. >> but he said that. he did say that. i'm asking whether that's real. >> newt is still here. is that what you said? is that what you meant? >> what i said was there are two different challenges for christie. one is you can go into a state like iowa where the governor has very large majority of support. y...

And "b," working together to do that. and i think that is one of the reasons people like him so much. >> to say i'm a leader and if you look at obama, no drama obama. this is all drama, all the time, you know. i'm going to lead you on a mission on a battlefield. it's a reaction to obama. >> every presidential candidate is in some way is a response to the previous president. what people will be looking for after obama is someone not aloof, not professorial, someone with that pugnacious personality. someone who seems completely comfortable in his own skin. i think he's a terrific candidate. i re...

Obama care. what's our plan. secondly you need to have some win candidates who are effective messengers who can win people who even don't always agree with you on every issue. you look at really good politicians, they get people to vote for them who don't necessarily agree with them on everything. >> can you imagine if the tea party group hadn't done all this shut down stuff and they waited and let this just play out can you imagine the position the berth be in right now? wouldn't it be far better, far stronger? and just successful on every level because they have this roll out story. >> i was...