you. bill: president obama cannot get him out. he should not be in prison organizations like ours will push on this issue. we are glad. the american government as strong as it is cannot get him out. authorities have to release him. bill: at the end of the day his butt is in jail. that s what s at the end of the day there is carney and everybody else. we got a statement from the new secretary of state, kerry. i m concerned. concerned doesn t cut it, that s my frustration. little backwater. this fascist state. terrorize and we can t do anything about it? one quick i want to make real quick if i can. christians are not only groups targeted in iran. iranian government has a problem with any group whether it s secular or religious that challenges the orthodoxy of the state. christians are a part of that many other religious minorities in iran if i were an american i wouldn t be going to iran, period. thank you very much. thanks for having me. talk to theologians about the devi
if it s bigotry. he really believes we are idiots, doctor, he does. he thinks he is a genius. he thinks you and me and the rest of the believers are idiots. now, he basically says that the united states isn t founded on judeo-christian philosophy. that s just absurd. i mean, our justice system is based on the 10 commandments. in fact, what hangs in the supreme court? the 10 commandments. they haven t gotten rid of them yet. they are there. the book lincoln you mentioned was a believer. bill: absolutely abraham lincoln read the bible every day. you will never get through to a guy like dawkins. very unscientific. bill: they get really upset. to attack somebody you don t believe in with such vigor and enthusiasm and anger. bill: i m not angry that dawkins doesn t believe. i don t care what he says. he gets really teed off. what has convinced you that there is a deity? and do you believe in an act of god?
jonah for three days. that doesn t happen. let s go to the new testament. the virgin birth seems to defy reason. bill: difference between the new and the old. there is a difference between the new and the old. a lot of people why do you stop at the old testament? but why would you as a believer and you are a believer. bill: i believe it? why would you just say the old testament. these stories are too fantastic to believe but i m going to believe in a virgin birth and resurrection. bill: it s certainly possible that the lord, the god who created the universe could have had jonah in the belly of the whale. it s possible if you are a believer at that level. but, more pragmatically, it isn t possible that jesus embraced the stoning of people and the enslavement of people. and so. no. therefore, when you start to look at the totality of all of the stories by the prophets. you see that you don t have to take them literally to get the theological message. but here s the pr
behavior? not really evil, i don t want to get into a shoulding match about who is more evil than who. bill: are we shouting? what i do think is that there is a logical connection between believing in god and doing sometimes doing evil things. bill: so what do you say to a guy like dawkins? i had him on twice. and you have never talked to him face to face. yes, he ambushed me when i was in oxford. he used a subterfuge. channel 4 called me and said we want to do interview. i want to the interview. bill: it was him you kicked his butt. i did. for three hours i kicked his butt. he took three hours out of that and put it in a movie called enemies of reason. he ambushed some very other bill: i think he is a dishonest guy. he, by the way, uses scientific credentials to camouflage his bigotry. bill: but i don t know
galvanize. tell these people to to knock off insulting easter. that s what it is, ladies and gentlemen. it s an insult to you. if you believe in easter. if you know that that holiday is designed to plootion please children in a secular. the east are bunny does not have any association to the resurrection of jesus. bill, i would say there is a real cautionary tale here. as we have seen christianity especially erode from europe. europe has become poorer and europe has become much less powerful. and it will happen over time. there will be ebbs and flows. but i think in this country as we become more secular and perhaps more progressive, but especially more secular. if the traditional people feel like it s always a war against them. if they are the evil doers. if he they re the haters, they are going to receive from public life, maybe from civic life, maybe they are not going to signed up to be in the military as much. maybe they are just going to we are going to take care of our fam