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Danger there, but what's the potential this could be held up and for how long? given what we know about the types of documents this special master will be dealing with. >> that is the big question that i think the department of justice is going to be wrestling with now. do they take an appeal because this is so legally wrong and sets this terrible precedent for other cases, or do they think they can get through the special master process quickly enough that it won't have any lasting damage, as joe said. you know, so what? there will be a special master. let's get through it. the real issue is,...

With the lawyers president, they could have relocated the materials off site and still done some inspection in which a trump representative could have at least been a part of that process. that's why i think, by the way, the special master process and more important than the taint team or filter team and i think courts said this, it is important for the person whose materials have been seized to have some input into privileged questions and that sort of thing. >> you do concede that the archives tried to get these documents for a long time. >> i think that's right. i think there were communica...

Was from mobsters who were lying. sammy the bull, he was one of the greatest scumbag liars of all time. >> can we say that on television? i am not sure. >> sorry. >> we had lanny davis release a piece of evidence. couldn't have been happy about that. now this leak. who knows what it is and who knows where it came from and whether or not it was intended for robert mueller's benefit, i don't know. how is the sdny taking this? >> i think based on conversations i have had over the last several days, they are taking it very much in the light of that's great that all these people are making that sta...

Presidential person, if you were just a dude out there and this was the legal landscape you were looking at, you were -- >> you'd be hiding under your desk. >> you'd be shook, right? >> and the scariest words are lanny davis for the president because he's a lawyer but he's also a big fat democrat. i mean, he thinks that trump stole the election from hillary clinton, who he supports. so why is he representing michael cohen? he's only doing that if he thinks that -- >> another symbol i think that is. zblvg. >> where are we in the michael cohen case? it's so strange to me this timeline. they raid...

Thinks that -- >> another symbol i think that is. zblvg. >> where are we in the michael cohen case? it's so strange to me this timeline. they raid michael cohen you think to yourself dude, you just got raided by the fbi and you're a lawyer, that's a big deal. they raided the president's lawyer, right? then you go through the special master process, this is privileged, this is not, now it's all turned over stroergz. michael cohen's chilling at the regenusy. he's got lanny davis. where do you think the case is at? >> that's a good question. i think he's got lawyers talking to the prosecutors. he...