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Specious argument. it's a red herring. >> the ads run by all the conservative groups that do nothing but badmouth obama care? >> juan, juan. >> isn't it enough to stop bad things before they happen? >> it is. by the way, with obama care is the bad thing. it's worth being realistic about outcomes here. health care is never going to be perfect. you lock at the system and the possibilities of screwing it up worse and glad to have it. >> we have to roll. >> let's work together and -- >> we didn't wreck it! we didn't pass obama care. >> that's true. >> let's agree that we should scrap obama care no...

Specious argument. it's a red herring. >> the ads run by all the conservative groups that do nothing but badmouth obama care? >> juan, juan. >> isn't it enough to stop bad things before they happen? >> it is. by the way, with obama care is the bad thing. it's worth being realistic about outcomes here. health care is never going to be perfect. you lock at the system and the possibilities of screwing it up worse and glad to have it. >> we have to roll. >> let's work together and -- >> we didn't wreck it! we didn't pass obama care. >> that's true. >> let's agree that we should scrap obama care no...

Toward an alternative system, so, you are both taking some chances here, right? >>guest: well, the issue is how you do that and who birds the risk. so, under the democratic preliminary as i said we have changed some of the incentives so that people get paid based on the coordination of care they provide to a patient not just the quantity of care that patient delivers. under the republican land they give seniors the equivalent of a voucher but the voucher does not keep pace with the rising health care costs so --. >>neil: you do not know that. the art for the voucher is that it will bring in th...

Teachers really are left for the mercy of the states and become kind of budget fodder. >> that's such a specious argument, because there's nothing in it for states or the country to ill-educate their children. they are our future. my sister's a teacher. james has five sisters, most of them are teachers. but where we are making gains in new orleans and places making gains in education, this is the right and the left are converging on this, is where principals have the ability to hire and promote teachers of merit and to fire the ones that aren't educating our kids. that is precluded by union --...

Whining perhaps when he shouldn't have given the numbers the democrats had in the senate? >> well, i understand the frustration. his frustration is moderate democrats and there are moderate democrats in the country have been ignored by this administration. president obama is forgetting how won the election and how anyone wins elections in the united states. which is you win elections by appealing to the common sense middle and you do not win elections by endlessly getting the two-word memo that democrats send out to everybody which is blame bush. fifteen months president obama has been there i...