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heard he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong. >> the stunning details of an out of president, who wanted to join the mob. >> the president said something to the effect of, i am that i think president, take me up to the capitol now. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, and said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. >> the president of the united states is chief of staff, his closest advisers, preparing for the viol...

Got here? >> no. not that i can specifically remember. i don't remember -- i remember hearing ideas discussed with mark and scott perry, mark and rudy giuliani -- i don't know which conversations were alluded to the president. i don't know what he personally wanted to do when he went on to the capitol that day. yeah, i -- there were discussions about him having another speech outsi of the capil before going in. i know that there was a conversation going to the house chamber at one point. >> he was going into the house chamber himself! the presidents striking into congress with a mob of his arm...