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>> i think 5% in cuts to education, health, environmental protections. will he be personalized for want doing that? there are parts of the base who think those things are important to them? >> he's trying to continue to crease the military, the defense spending budget as well. we're at 716 billion now. he wants to raise that to 750 billion in the next fiscal year. and that is something that he has promised a lot and out toed a ltouted a lot on the campaign trail. it was about a year ago when he looked like he wasn't going to silent spending bill that time over disputes over the wall. republica...

Because one quarter of good growth that we've had does not mean there is a sudden change in the overall trends. we have had four quarters above 4% growth under obama, and you know what? the long-term trend is the same. if you look at the cbo, if you look at the imf, if you look at the fed, if you look at any outside, independent analyst, they will tell you that the long-term structural trends in the economy persist. we have demographic challenges. we have lots of other issues related to productivity growth amongst other things that will persist and that will not go away just because we had tru...

Amongst other things that will persist and that will not go away just because we had trump add a $2 trillion stimulus in the form of a tax cut and a spending increase. one quarter of stronger gdp growth does not make a trend. >> all right. hold on. niger, a problem for each of you. i'll pick up on niger's point. here's the problem for you, catherine. one, do you have businesses having an optimistic look that measures higher than what we've seen in recent history. >> that's true. >> unemployment is lower. the stock market is higher. trump is using those along with the growth of the quarter. loo...

Remember that $1.3 trillion spending bill put together the other week just days before the government shutdown. we called it a swamp bill written by special interest for special interest. how right we were. we have taken a look at that 2,000 page peac piece of legisl. the spending bill is tonight's swamp watch. steve: one thing people liked was more money for the military especially a pay raise for the troops. how was that? it's really a 1.1% raise. it's less impressive that you compare to the industrial swamp got for the bill. the total increase was $55 billion. the raise for our troops adds ...

Along with that title comes the expectation of smaller government and not a $1.3 trillion bill. talk to me. >> that's right. i don't think anybody, democrat, republican, conservative, liberal went home and campaigned saying they wanted to vote for the greatest spending, largest spending increase in history. 13% above last year. and not only that, har rises, you know -- harris, we get the bill, 2,230 pages at 8:30 last night. there was a night in there, i was up past midnight in the rules committee with amendments. but you could have stayed up all night anyhow, and read the bill and you still w...