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That whoever was going to be the president in the next eight years and the subsequent eight years that the deficit was going to grow almost in spite of anything you could do at the discretionnaire spending level that we the legislative branch has put on autopilot. i think it's wrong. we need to bring that back on budget. we have to take tough votes. those would be tough votes. it would be career ending injuries for some people but we need to do it. >> you think the republican party needs to stand. >> 15 cents of every dollar is being spent on the nondefense discretionary side and expect to bal...

Significant amount. >> hugely. >> it was baked into the cake that whoever was going to be the president in the next eight years and the subsequent eight years that the deficit was going to grow almost in spite of anything you could do at the discretionnaire spending level that we the legislative branch has put on autopilot. i think it's wrong. we need to bring that back on budget. we have to take tough votes. those would be tough votes. it would be career ending injuries for some people but we need to do it. >> you think the republican party needs to stand. >> 15 cents of every dollar is being...

Elect the budget bust more and it's going -- it's very frustrating to fiscal hawks. they will be overruled and a deal will be made. it's an issue of the grassroots level because it's what they promised they would attend to. >> shannon: >> not just two yea. for two years to get an extra 150 billion. it creates a new spending level. everything loads based off that. talk about that tax cuts over ten years. it's going to work out to be the same thing. bipartisanship is a great way to bust deficits and increase debt. >> shannon: i know you think schumer came out pretty good in this deal. >> this ty...

That you guys had to pass a cr. >> yeah. >> why is that? why are we -- >> you want me to read my opening again? >> i mean -- >> it is a legitimate question. i'm not trying to belittle your question. why are we doing this continuing resolutions? because sen democrats aren't allowing appropriations bills to be brought up for a vote. they're attaching unrelated issues to cap negotiations. so shouldn't we have regular order on appropriations? congress agrees on the spending level. congress funds appropriations to the levels. that's how appropriations are supposed to work. the house passed all 12 a...

Awe-inspiring place. l 3 ceo is there as well. michael, very good to have you. all of this comes at a time, the tax cuts and then the budget stuff and then we're going to be hearing tax that they want a free spending level and john mckeane and others want to increase that and others say if you increase that, increase defense spending. your thoughts. >> it's encouraging even now because some of the discussion has been, one, the sequester caps have yet to be raised and we really can't increase our defense spending beyond those caps and the law. here we are in december already and those caps have...