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Know, nobody wants to pay higher taxes certainly. if you look at what donald is talking about, he's talking spending at a faster pace than any revenue would come in with his wall and they haven't scored trump care yet. so, there's a lot of accountability that comes out of it. david: let's leave that with steve. steve, it's true there are a lot more expenses with the trump administration. >> the key thing is, when you lower tax rates, you get more revenue. on the spending side, separate issue. you want more revenue, lower the burden on the american people. david: guys, we've got to leave it at ...

Extensively about entitlements numerous times. back in 2012, you said in a hearing that you were disappointed that all of the discussion seems to be focused on the revenue side and not on the spending side, most specifically on entitlements. they are not putting it on the table. our entitlements completely off the table? when you get there by may? >> a couple different points. it is off the table for now because this budget blueprint is not designed to address those types of things. when away get to the larger budget, the full budget in april and may, you will start to see the larger policy id...

Extensively about entitlements numerous times. back in 2012, you said in a hearing that you were disappointed that all of the discussion seems to be focused on the revenue side and not on the spending side, most specifically on entitlements. they are not putting it on the table. our entitlements completely off the table? when you get there by may? >> a couple different points. it is off the table for now because this budget blueprint is not designed to address those types of things. when away get to the larger budget, the full budget in april and may, you will start to see the larger policy id...

Those explorations of natural resources an additional new jobs also bring additional tax revenue in. if we start bringing biusinesse back, that creates a revenue stream that has a significant impact on being able to drive down the deficit and balancing the budget. i don't want to get into too much detail but the president has been very keen on looking at the revenue side as well as the spending side. when it comes to the spending side you're looking at a whole government approach look at every agency, every job, the spending, that they necessary, are they duplicative, are we using the taxpayer...

Of natural jobs also bring additional tax revenue. there's a way to do this. if we start bringing businesses back. creating more job. that has a significant impact on the deficit on being able to drive down the deficit and balancing the budget. i think it' not something i want to get into too much detail now but i will tell you the president has been very keen on trying to make sure that we look at the revenue side as much as we're looking at the spending side. when it comes to the spending side, you're looking at a whole government approach at how we look at every department, every agency, ev...