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Parameters that are vital for our country. if you say you'll ring up the debt by 11 or $12 trillion, you're not for that. but that's what some of these plans propose, sean. i'm just telling you that's what happens to the debt. go analyze them. >> i actually believe if you eliminate baseline budgeting -- carly said that. you cut a penny out of every dollar, on the spending side. i don't think there's any limit to the amount of money that we can grow the economy with energy and becoming the corporate tax haven of the world. i don't even know if anybody can calculate the economic growth benefits ...

History of our country, win this election. >> hillary and the democrats promise everything on the spending side. >> this is also smething hillary clinton agrees. >> bernie sanders and hillary clinton won't tell you that that's the thing that's really hurting the middle class and poor. >> wait until you see what hillary clinton will do to this country. >> hillary clinton's approach to this is more topdown, more regulation, more passes. >> hillary clinton says -- >> hill i clinton. >> hillary clinton wants to suppress that. >> this president and hill i clinton -- >> it may be the best that hilla...

It. and and then you saw other candidates either running away from the issue or putting forward myths about we really don't have to do anything to fix health care programs and that's just not true. the key to getting our budget fixed is dealing with entitlements. jenna: doug, it is confusing, that's why we have to turn to experts about, again, what is best for us and our families. is it pursuing a flat tax or hearing more on entitlement reform? >> i don't think you should pick. first of all, a tax rate is not a tax plan. you need to actually know what goes into the base, you need to know how i...

Committee get the considerable ty back? >> i don't think so. i think it has been badly damaged. >> badly damaged. >> you had in fact a former investigator say that he was fired from the committee because he wanted a nonpartisan investigation and they wouldn't let him do it. >> let's get to howie kurtz media buzz. he has a big guest. h good morning to you. >> we have a wide ranging interview with donald trump, talks about what he calls the dishonest media and names names. pretty rough on marco rubio. we talked about ben carson. and jeb bush. and the coverage of his wife melania. i pressed him o...

Challenged on or he can look, as e.j. said, a politician who's trying to, you know, flim flam people, then he loses his big sales pitch, which is i know how you feel, just put me in charge and i'll take care of things. and you won't believe how much success. you'll be tired of all the success we'll have. you'll impeach me because i'm doing such a good job and you'll be bored with it. >> bill o'reilly did talk to him act the spending side tonight. asked him for a specific example of what he would cut in spending and o'reilly was a little luckier with that question. >> give me one big thing you'...