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[ inaudible ] i think a lot of members are struggling with it. >> bret: some republicans are not happy with it. the white house turned it down. but negotiations are continuing. so where are we? bring in the panel. tucker carlson, editor of the dailycaller.com. a.b. stoddard associate editor of the hill. and sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. 14 days from tonight. by the way. >> start of the day i was feeling optimistic in a way i have not. it surprised me but it seems that things are moving quickly. things are moving on both sides. the white house saying this is not the final offer. but ...

Part? what was concerning to you? >> dana: the piece about the fiscal cliff first. you think they have had a year to work on that the democrats and republicans could come together. i think what harry reid heard last night from the democrats is we are not going to do anything. this is reported in the national journal today. not going to do anything to make any change or sacrifice benefit for social security, medicare or medicaid. that would be a condition of speaker boehner, which is if we give you the revenue you have to help us on the spending side, on the entitlement issue. reid said i can't...

Are we truly deadlocked on both sides? or are we just negotiating up until the 11th hour? >> i would like this think there is still good faith on the part of the president and the administration to get a deal but i'm becoming increasingly skeptical that is true. bill: you are? >> i think they pretty much concluded bill, this has to be a revenue issue. this will be tax increases to get a deal, to get republicans to support a deal. you will need something that addresses the spending side of the equation. that is what the issue his in our opinion. the facts bear that out. if you give the presiden...

Problems absent taking on entitlement programs, reforming the programs, saving social security and medicare and doing that if we don't deal with that aspect with the spending side of it. we have not touched the problem. >>neil: you want to see concessions on the spending before you even address the revenues because the criticism from the colleagues is they have not seen that, and we will talk to a democrat shortly, and that is where you are stalled. >>guest: absolutely. if you did energy the president wants it do raise taxes on income and on dividends and capital gains which is harmful to the ...

>> well, bill you know that and i know that in part because we watch fox news, and fox news reports it that way which is the straight forward way to report it. you can find that out from the other media, but you have to read it carefully because it's not apparent. all the conversation, all the discussion, all the news that's made in this whole discussion since the end of the election has been about what? it's been about tax rates on the rich. >> bill: right. >> that's been the whole story. the fact that the president hasn't come forward with anything meaningful on the spending side, especially...