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>> after what happened the last time they had the showdown the base ex expect s it and are demanding it. if republicans have a hope of winning, they have to stand firm. they can't cave again. we are having this food fight over tactics. the goals are the same. marco rubio said that. our goals are the same. we are a member of the same party shooting inside the tent. but the tactics are the issue. the tactics should be united on this one. i think boehner is right. we should unite around him, have a united front and not have a republican break off. >> the full faith and credit of the united states...

Five, beckel and andrea. >> you said weeks. should have said years. >> i'm sorry. you're correct. >> that's the only time sean will say that during this segment. >> let me ask you, the president said he won't negotiate the raising of the debt ceiling. >> yeah. >> is that responsible? >> i don't know of a single president who has. every president since before roosevelt has had a debt ceiling increase every year by the congress. none of them put anything on it except an increase of the debt ceiling. >> if a senator doesn't support them, what do you say about them? >> when obama said what he said...

Will say that during this segment. >> let me ask you, the president said he won't negotiate the raising of the debt ceiling. >> yeah. >> is that responsible? >> i don't know of a single president who has. every president since before roosevelt has had a debt ceiling increase every year by the congress. none of them put anything on it except an increase of the debt ceiling. >> if a senator doesn't support them, what do you say about them? >> when obama said what he said about bush he was posturing, running for office. i don't want to increase the debt court of appeal ing. it's bad for the count...

To big business and the exemptions given and special consideration to d.c. employees -- and i would venture a guess unions in the future, they think it's unfair. do you think it's unfair? >> yeah. i don't understand. >> whdon't what don't you under? >> you want to defeat the larger idea and say in terms of the deficit, let's defeat obamacare. >> one last question. >> it has nothing to do with cutting spend ing. >> juan, 54% of americans disapprove of the way obama is overhauling the health care law, as you know. it's not on the president's side. at the end of the day we are looking at the amer...