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House. the white house is large organization. >> we talk how there was a lot to unpack. jake said this was remarkable. it was remarkable the breadth and depth. this idea he is coming out and doing a hard media push. talked with reporters again in the last half hour this morning. smart strategy on the part of the president? >> i think it's a smart strategy. donald trump is so different than anybody else we have known who served as a political leader in this country. he's doing all kinds of things i would not recommend be done. some of them don't work. some of them i wish he didn't do and others...

Standing on pot. he says the effect is less awful than heroine. joining me now, somebody that's tracking all the ups and downs. emi emi emily duftin. emily, it is hard nor me to see the clock is getting turned back. i read the book and i appreciate the up and down of the nature of the history of pot >> well, thank you so much and i am dplad thglad to have the opp to talk about this. i do believe that there is not a definite clear path towards fuel legalization just yet. new jersey is going to be the first state to the recreational and via state space initiative through the legislatures which