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Your party. there's another thing of being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate. >> and she's creating these spread sheets and nobodies -- nobody knows what's in the spread sheets. >> kevin mccarthy and steve scalise and the progressive party. think about what that means? >> they just don't trust senators sinema and mancion. trust is breaking down. coming up, in basketball you have to take your shots. as the nba season kicks off, some players are choosing to stay on the sidelines. and two major court cases are changing the music industry and

Before. this is their first time in the majority. they don't have an idea how hard it is with a slim majority. but i'm with debbie dingell. i put my faith in nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and joe biden to get this across the finish line. >> what are you hearing about krysten sinema's relationship with fellow democrats? is this becoming a toxic relationship? >> i don't think it is. first of all krysten sinema is running around with spread sheets. this is someone doing a lot of home work on the nitty gritty. she may not talk to the press but i can assure you she is sharing with other members wh...

Infamously in his debate with hillary clinton said he was smart because he didn't pay taxes. we don't know yet whether this case will ultimately reach him right now it's limited to the corporation that's his name sake corporation and to the cfo but those comments in that debate may come back to haunt him. >> andrew, let's talk a little bit about what the next act might be in this ongoing investigation. we know that, first, there is what was accurately described as audacious plan to just boldly with accompanying spread sheets avoid taxes on a large amount of income. but what about, where are we...

If you believe the evidence in it here, it's a long scheme with concrete proof they knew what they were doing. >> ari -- >> i can read you? >> yes, please. >> just on this point. we're getting breaking news. a whole trump organization indicted. the we're talking a lot about the cfo. that is the person and the company doesn't go to jail. a person can. but these are 15 counts against both. the company and mr. weisselberg. on the point we were just discussing, reading from the -- reading from the indictment, the trump organization maintained unternl spread sheets that track the amount it paid for...

Reports are always wrong. they may be but you better check it out. i've been listening to the guests tonight and they've been talking about this as it was an isolated incident in terms of what was going on. remember, you know, john kelly is a marine. he wants to instill discipline and processes and systems to the white house. and it is a dysfunctional organization with a lot of brief floating electrons. in is probably about a million things he's handling. it's the most complexing and unbelievably difficult problems he's trying to handle. so, again, that's not an excuse but it's one of the thin...