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Which is why you saw when this came down to it yesterday, there were not a lot of -- make the debates. traditionally there have been issues about needing to share data in order to be able to have the information to set prices accurately. but there's always been a difference between sharing historical data and doing projections and trend lines going forward. in other words, you want to know the probability that certain diseases and injuries are going to occur and how much those might cost. but that's very different than wanting to say, going forward, how can we agree on how much we should charg...

She called it tears of frustration. she said the organization totally botched it. they shouldn't have released her and let her go down. she does, the good news, get another crack at the course today. but there's a little rivalry, too. it's interesting. between vonn and mancuso. they don't get along all that well. there was some implication in some of mancuso's remarks that vonn should have gotten off the course a little quicker. >> so she's mad that vonn -- i think it's very selfish of vonn to fall down the way she did and blow her chance at a gold medal. and then, of course, i think this was ...

States senators which is rare in my lifetime. gave him an 80-vote margin in the house of representatives. and he's not getting it done. and you can't blame that just on obstructionist republicans. there's a lack of leadership here. i think he's got to realize it. i heard part of that speech, joe. it was very deliberative. it was written. it was not the old obama. it was like he was sitting there just reading the thing. >> yeah. norah, it is so hard after you get into the white house and things are flying at you, but you have to keep that game face on. you have to stay optimistic. and right now...

Game and trying to create a political event. >> andrea mitchell? >> chuck, what about the fact that the republicans didn't have a whole lot of time to plan for the house caucus meeting with the president. and it wasn't the leadership, per se. yes, you saw mike pence and some of the other leaders. but it was also just rank-and-file members going back and forth with the president. and you know, there was more spontaneity about it. but what you're going to see today around the table are the leaders who have entrenched positions that they have to defend. >> that's right. and you know, none of the ...

Pat, you're winning the debate. >> i think pat drives a mercedes. >> that's a long time ago. >> 1990, michigan primary thing up. >> not since 1992, my friend. what about it? if it's so important, why put it off until 2018? why not tack it will now? >> look, joe, understand this. there are a number of cost-saving measures that are in this bill because everybody is right that we do have to change the amount of money that we're spending on health care. because right now we're spending twice as much as every other industrialized economy. but not seeing a different output because of it. look, this ...