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Have anyway, but it has more effect because the press is carrying a lot of things saying, oh, look how well putin did, look how well lavrov did and so forth. i think this is all basically kind of lightweight. i mean, it's a little bit important, but it's a lot more important whether the russians are repressing in crimea, whether they are doing anything positive to move beyond their brutal behavior. >> no headlines out of crimea, meantime, from their conversation. that's interesting. nothing coming from that. stay with us. we have more to discuss. want to squeeze in a quick break. we're also co...

Undermine his own election. but at some stage we have to say outloud what are his motivations for 2018 and 2020? at this stage there is no more evidence to know that russia will continue to do what it's doing. >> by the way, we focus, erin -- >> prepping the battlefield. >> i was going to say, we focus on the past. to juliet's point, everyone says this will embolden them in 2018 and 2020 by not acknowledging, yes, this happened, yes, this was bad, yes, it was russia, it makes it more difficult to execute against a plan to keep it from happening in 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024. >> you have to admit y...